Tuesday, September 19, 2006

Both pope and professor?

A friend and reader asked when I was going to comment on the Benedict v. the entire Muslim world smackdown. First, apologies to the faithful--I've been more than a bit swamped, so I've been a bad blogger.

My personal opinion about B16's allegedly inflammatory remarks is simply that he forgot himself: He's the pope, not a professor, and everything single thing he says is fair game, even when he's misinterpreted. I find it hard to believe, however, that he didn't anticipate that his quote of a 14th-c. Byzantine emperor about Islam would go over badly, though maybe not as badly as it has. If he didn't, he's guilty of a naivete that we generally don't expect of him. I'd be willing to bet that no one outside the immediate papal circle--and certainly not anyone involved in Catholic-Muslim dialogue--read that piece. If the now-dismissed former president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, had seen it, it never would have been said.

In the pope's defense--and let me reiterate that he made a huge mistake for which he should apologize (and I don't mean "I'm sorry some Muslims took what I said the wrong way")--I don't doubt that he intended no disrespect to Islam or the prophet Muhammad. And unfortunately some will see the violent protests as proof of inherent violence within Islam. (If you want a real defense of B16, you'll want to read John Allen's op-ed piece in today's New York Times. Incidentally, I think it a bit unfair that Allen mentions the murder of an Italian priest in Turkey as an example of Muslim countries' oppression of Christians. Tens of thousands of Muslims have died at the hands of Christians in the past four years. If we're going to do a body count, Christianity is not going to come out looking good.)

At the same time it is valuable to remember that there are over 1 billion Muslims; if they really wanted a holy war, we'd have one. Indeed, considering the atrocities in Iraq and Guantanamo, I'd argue that most of the Muslim world has shown remarkable restraint. And, as many Muslims have argued, given both history and the current state of affairs, it is presumptuous for a Christian leader to lecture anyone about violence done in the name of religion. Add to that the fact that most Muslims are probably hearing the pope's comments both third- or fourth-hand and translated, and we shouldn't wonder why we have such a problem on our hands.

There were two op-ed pieces in today's Chicago Tribune that I think shed real and objective light on the situation: one by Martin Marty, formerly of the University of Chicago; the other by Notre Dame's Paul Cobb.

The whole thing makes you long for the days of JPII. He may have been grumpy with the West, liberal Catholics, and Communists, but he did know how to treat everyone else well!

7 Comments:

At 6:43 PM, Blogger Terror-Free said...

New Pope Shows Spine
Islamonazi CAIR Is Not Impressed

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Please Call The Vatican Embassy In Washington, DC at (202) 333-7121 to Express Your Support!

 
At 2:38 AM, Blogger Sister Mary Martha said...

thank you.

 
At 11:02 AM, Blogger Janet said...

Thanks for articulating these points so well.
I just found your blog and am interested to hear more of your thoughts.

 
At 11:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, how dare the Pope insinuate that killing innocent people is not God's will. As if the Vicar of Christ has the right to speak the truth!

Give me a break! The Muslims need to learn a little tolerance. The Pope said nothing offensive, but even if did, that does give them the excuse to make threats on his life. After all, the Catholic religion is ridiculed all the time, if we can take the heat, so can the Muslims.

 
At 11:24 AM, Blogger Janet said...

Countless violence, in the form of the Crusades, wars of many origins, and materialism/greed have been waged by "Christians", believing that God is on "our" side, even though Jesus's gospels advocate the ultimate loving nonviolence.
Christians should not be the first to throw a stone against extremists who use their religion to justify political gains.

 
At 12:37 PM, Anonymous religion of pieces said...

Janet, that was then but this is now. Here are twenty facts about Islam every infidel should know. (And which the Pope probably already knows, see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1553225/posts )

Islam ...

1) Is a mind-control and information-control cult founded by a murderer, torturer, brigand, rapist and pedophile called Mohammed. The mind-control and information-control aspects require that all criticism be silenced.

2) Is Mohammed's personality cult. Has no foundations other than Mo's murderous rantings (Koran and Hadith). The Koran consists of two conflicting parts - Meccan and Medinan (peaceful and violent respectively). The Medinan stuff supersedes ('abrogates') the Meccan stuff. Muslims act Medinan, but quote Meccan verses to the gullible infidels.

3) Claims to worship the same God as Christians and Jews, but in fact worships Allah - a demonic channelling through Mohammed's psychopathic ego. The Death Cult mixes garbled versions of Christian and Jewish scriptures with pagan practices such as moon and meteorite-worship, and cut-throat blood sacrifice of animals and non-believers.

4) Has no rational, philosophical nor theological basis, and the whole belief-system is contradicted by science, philosophy, commonsense, human decency and internal inconsistency.

5) Cannot withstand rational criticism. Can only spread and maintain itself by ignorance, illiteracy, war, terrorism, and intimidation. Islam has bloody borders and cannot co-exist peacefully with other belief systems. Winston Churchill said that Islam in a man is as dangerous as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog.

6) Has a superstitious dread of images of pigs, crosses, Buddhas, Saint George (and his flag) and of course Motoons.

7) Regards Islamic women as semihuman. Wife-beating, incest and child abuse (including mufa’khathat or 'thighing' - the ritual abuse of infants) are encouraged.

8) Regards all unbelievers (Kaffirs, Kuffar, Kufrs, Kafirs) as ritually unclean subhumans to be killed, subjugated, enslaved, exploited or parasitised. Kafirs are described by the Arabic word 'najis' - literally 'filth'. That's why Muslim hatred of Kafirs is intrinsic to their 'religion'. A Kafir doesn't need to DO anything to offend a Muslim, his very existence is enough of an affront.

9) The ethical system applies only to Muslims. Allah encourages rape, pillage, extortion and enslavement of non-Muslims. Morality does not extend beyond the global gang (ummah). Muslim ethics are the ethics of the Mafia.

10) Allah's followers are motivated by hatred, greed and lust. There is no love, mercy or compassion. Allah is vindictive, unpredictable, capricious and devious - "Allah leads astray whom he pleases".

11) The only religion NOT founded on The Golden Rule. Morality is based on Mohammed's example. If Mohammed did it then it's OK for all Muslims. Hence the encouragement of rape, pillage, subjugation and murder of non-believers and the institutionalised pedophilia prevalent throughout Muslim society (justified by Mohammed's activities with Ayesha, his child sex-slave - see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics1.htm).

12) All human relations are defined by Dominance/Subjugation. Muslims have schizoid inferiority/superiority complexes. (A well-balanced Muslim is one with a chip on each shoulder). They respect strength but despise compromise as weakness. Appeasement invites more aggression. The only political system which has been strong enough to subjugate Islam is Stalinism.

13) Polygamy ensures alpha-males get extra women, leading to a shortage of women for the betas. Beta-males must either jerk off (a sin leading to hell), or form dog-packs and rape or capture kafir women as booty in a razzia, or else self-destruct in the presence of infidels then they can screw 72 mythical virgins in Allah's bordello in the sky (see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics3.htm). Beta-males are often encouraged by their relatives to become suicide bombers because of the belief that such murderous 'martyrs' will be able to intercede with Allah to take 70 of their relatives to paradise with them.

14) Lying and deception of infidels (taqiyya) is encouraged. This may take many forms, including outright lies, feigned moderation, and condemnation of terrorist attacks to the Kaffir while rejoicing with fellow Muslims. All Muslims need to regard themselves as victims of some group of Kafirs so they can harbor grudges against them and against Kafirs in general. Individuals may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and must be considered potential killers who can flip in an instant (SJS -'Sudden Jihad Syndrome').

15) Muslims are forbidden to befriend Kaffirs except for purposes of deceit or where conversion may be possible.

16) The Koran is Allah's final word and cannot be changed or challenged. To do so is punishable by death. Consequently, the Death Cult can never change or be reformed. The instructions to murder and rape infidels are just as valid now as the day they were written. Since Islam cannot be modernised, the Muslims are attempting to Islamise modernity. This requires spreading Islam in the West and simultaneously preventing any criticism of the cult by intimidation and PC legislation to curtail freedom of expression.

17) Treaties and agreements with Kaffirs are made to be broken (Hudna). The word of a Muslim to a Kafir counts for nothing in the eyes of Allah. Allah is The Father Of Lies.

18) The world is divided between Dar-al-Islam and Dar-al-Harb (the domain of war, the Kufr lands). Muslims living in Dar-al-Harb must work to disrupt their host nations until these can be brought into Dar-al-Islam.

19) Muslims have no obligation to their host nations and in fact are encouraged to parasitise them. Welfare fraud, identity theft, forgery etc are endemic in Western Muslim populations, and serious crime against Kaffirs is regarded as normal and justified. Extortion rackets against Kafirs are mandated by the Koran ('jizya' is the Arabic term for 'protection money' payable by Jews and Christians to Muslims).

20) The attack on the host nation isn't just against its religion and economy, but is aimed at its very cultural identity. Islam is a complete system, including a culture, which Muslims regard as superior (despite all evidence to the contrary) to other cultures. Muslims are therefore required to destroy the symbols of 'Jahiliya' (sometimes sp. Jahiliyya) - non-Muslim culture. In the East this has included destruction of Hindu temples and Christian churches and replacement with mosques, and destruction of Buddhist artwork and universities and replacement with heaps of rubble. This process of cultural replacement is now beginning in the West..

 
At 4:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, I totally agree. I to, wanted to believe that the Muslim religion was one of peace, that there were a few "crazies" out there but the religion itself was good. That is, until I did some research and saw that the behavior of the terrorists is in conformity with the Koran. It's a sad fact that as an American citizen is a democratic country I am afraid to blog on this topic in fear for my life. That has to tell you something.

 

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